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buddix
05-09-2009, 01:39 AM
Do you know any pimps and how much money do they make?

Sophocles
05-09-2009, 03:09 AM
Looking to go into the business Buddix?

vodkakiller
05-09-2009, 02:24 PM
60-80% of the take. Depends on what other expenses are involved.

Samadhi
05-10-2009, 07:04 PM
yea i knew one pimp, and one of my freinds is a high end escort who recently moved to Miami because apparently there is a better market and he makes a shit ton of money but as far as chicken head street pimping i dont think its a good career


pimping i dont think is a really flattering buisness in this day and age. the guy i knew had about 3-6 girls at a time and all of them where black execpt he always kept one white girl

all of them where sort of his girlfreinds as many pimps are. I gather he made prolly about a couple K a week but i never really took a look at his financial statements

he was always into shit tho man, how i knew him was he was one of my freinds uncles and he would always come by and smoke/buy from us and tell us some crazy story how he had to go kick some guys ass or take his girls to the clinic or bond someone out of jail so i dont think a very fun proffesion

he did drive a bad ass old school drop top caddy which totally sets off the pimp image but he just dressed like a regular black guy (IE sports gear baggy shit etc)



hope this helps

The Fuhror
05-10-2009, 07:08 PM
Really though. Selling drugs is much more lucrative. Lower key, and less bullshit to deal with if you do it right. Up until you graduate from lower class hustler into a trafficker. Then it's a headache.

Samadhi
05-10-2009, 07:15 PM
iid agree but i dunno what you mean by lower key because even a street hustler can get up to 5 years for basically nothing but ive never heard of big sentances for pimping. however pimps get locked for other things relating to their job more like assaults and shit but still yea as far as illegal activity goes selling drugs is pretty good for money


the best tho is if you can make a couple hundred K doing a hit and just do a couple of those every few years but those connections are kinda hard to find and killing = wrong


people compromise a lot of morals for moeny tho

CAPTAIN AMAZING
05-10-2009, 07:32 PM
iid agree but i dunno what you mean by lower key because even a street hustler can get up to 5 years for basically nothing but ive never heard of big sentances for pimping. however pimps get locked for other things relating to their job more like assaults and shit but still yea as far as illegal activity goes selling drugs is pretty good for money


the best tho is if you can make a couple hundred K doing a hit and just do a couple of those every few years but those connections are kinda hard to find and killing = wrong


people compromise a lot of morals for moeny tho

Is being a hitman anything like in the movie Collateral?

illmatic
05-10-2009, 07:33 PM
How many people have you killed Samadhi?

illmatic
05-10-2009, 07:34 PM
Also, for srs, what would your price be to murder an adult male that you didn't know, for reasons you weren't aware of?

Smerdyakov
05-10-2009, 07:42 PM
Also, for srs, what would your price be to murder an adult male that you didn't know, for reasons you weren't aware of?

I know someone who arranged a hit for about $10k.

Samadhi
05-10-2009, 07:42 PM
ive n ever killed n e one but id do it for 500k

Smerdyakov
05-10-2009, 07:45 PM
ive n ever killed n e one but id do it for 500k

That's a pretty high price. Normally there's a sliding scale depending on the nature of the target.

buddix
05-10-2009, 09:16 PM
Yeah theres always street walkers on my street. Usually down like a few blocks since cops always hang out around my block.

But once one was hanging out in front of my apartment. Anyways her pimp came by, yeah he was just dressed like a normal guy with some beater of a car. Didn't look like he was doing too well. But I hear them bragging about how they make like like thousands a night and stuff. So just been wondering about it.

I know they almost never get in trouble unless theyre pimping underage girls. Which is why a lot of them like to do it other than drugs. Its also more difficult I guess, as well as being like the creepiest profession ever.

Smerdyakov
05-10-2009, 09:32 PM
I can only imagine that a lot of the money earned goes towards drugs, towards paying bribes to organized crime, other pimps, and the cops, and towards personal debts of both the pimp and the prozzies. I bet they're pulling only a small margin after all the bribes and debts are paid off.

Pimpin' ain't easy, man.

47Driver
05-10-2009, 09:46 PM
Not pimps anymore, they're escort services. A waste of time. Girls are greedy and unreliable as fuck, and cops are always trying to bust you, no matter how legit you try and make your business look. Better off dealing drugs.

CrackBaby
05-10-2009, 10:05 PM
iid agree but i dunno what you mean by lower key because even a street hustler can get up to 5 years for basically nothing but ive never heard of big sentances for pimping. however pimps get locked for other things relating to their job more like assaults and shit but still yea as far as illegal activity goes selling drugs is pretty good for money


the best tho is if you can make a couple hundred K doing a hit and just do a couple of those every few years but those connections are kinda hard to find and killing = wrong


people compromise a lot of morals for moeny tho

who the hell pays a couple hundred K for a hit? that's retarded. $20K ok, a couple hundred or enough to sit back for a few years? i can't believe anybody would be that lazy (to pay that much).

Smerdyakov
05-10-2009, 10:08 PM
iid agree but i dunno what you mean by lower key because even a street hustler can get up to 5 years for basically nothing but ive never heard of big sentances for pimping. however pimps get locked for other things relating to their job more like assaults and shit but still yea as far as illegal activity goes selling drugs is pretty good for money


the best tho is if you can make a couple hundred K doing a hit and just do a couple of those every few years but those connections are kinda hard to find and killing = wrong


people compromise a lot of morals for moeny tho

who the hell pays a couple hundred K for a hit? that's retarded. $20K ok, a couple hundred or enough to sit back for a few years? i can't believe anybody would be that lazy (to pay that much).

I think it would depend on the quality of the job. Some hits probably require a much more skilled professional than others, and are probably higher-risk endeavors for both the contractor and the client.

Samadhi
05-10-2009, 10:10 PM
iid agree but i dunno what you mean by lower key because even a street hustler can get up to 5 years for basically nothing but ive never heard of big sentances for pimping. however pimps get locked for other things relating to their job more like assaults and shit but still yea as far as illegal activity goes selling drugs is pretty good for money


the best tho is if you can make a couple hundred K doing a hit and just do a couple of those every few years but those connections are kinda hard to find and killing = wrong


people compromise a lot of morals for moeny tho

who the hell pays a couple hundred K for a hit? that's retarded. $20K ok, a couple hundred or enough to sit back for a few years? i can't believe anybody would be that lazy (to pay that much).

I think it would depend on the quality of the job. Some hits probably require a much more skilled professional than others, and are probably higher-risk endeavors for both the contractor and the client.

this


also i dunno if you heard the word from the bird CB but proffesional murder is big fucking buisness


might be an endevour you want to look into

CrackBaby
05-10-2009, 10:14 PM
that chicago university researcher who did the crack-gang research (i somewhat call bullshit on that though but that's another story - he found that in an inner city crack gang the leader made $100K/year after everything, and his minions [some 500 or something guys] averaged $3.50/hour and had a 25% chance of dying during their careers) has been investigating prostitutes now. apparently prostitutes with pimps make quite a bit more on average (but this might just be because the ones without pimps are super bottom of the barrel and no pimp cares to bother them).

how many pimps you know that are bragging about their earnings etc? those street walker types aren't pulling in much (but still average $20-$30/hour, way higher than they would otherwise make) but the escorts do make a pile. the escort services are all complicated now, call centers outsourced to india/costa rica acting as virtual offices (also protected from the police), tough-guy driver/security/collections for themselves fill in the rest of the role of a pimp and that's pretty much it. with websites showing the goods by name, and everybody knowing what paper to look in the back of for whores the role of the pimp is pretty minimal now other than bringing in something weird like underage etc.

CrackBaby
05-10-2009, 10:18 PM
iid agree but i dunno what you mean by lower key because even a street hustler can get up to 5 years for basically nothing but ive never heard of big sentances for pimping. however pimps get locked for other things relating to their job more like assaults and shit but still yea as far as illegal activity goes selling drugs is pretty good for money


the best tho is if you can make a couple hundred K doing a hit and just do a couple of those every few years but those connections are kinda hard to find and killing = wrong


people compromise a lot of morals for moeny tho

who the hell pays a couple hundred K for a hit? that's retarded. $20K ok, a couple hundred or enough to sit back for a few years? i can't believe anybody would be that lazy (to pay that much).

I think it would depend on the quality of the job. Some hits probably require a much more skilled professional than others, and are probably higher-risk endeavors for both the contractor and the client.

this


also i dunno if you heard the word from the bird CB but proffesional murder is big fucking buisness


might be an endevour you want to look into

ok but in what situation would anyone's death ever be worth that much? i mean life insurance policies are typically $200K and looking for accidental. even if you bumped off the CEO of some company so the VP-operations got to move up they aren't looking at such a huge change that it would be worth paying out that kind of money.

and beyond that, anybody ruthless enough to really want someone like that dead, can't take the first $15K and completely outfit themselves with the latest high power rifle tech including optics? that type of person would be more confident in themselves killing the person than another person never selling them out no?

Smerdyakov
05-10-2009, 10:22 PM
ok but in what situation would anyone's death ever be worth that much? i mean life insurance policies are typically $200K and looking for accidental. even if you bumped off the CEO of some company so the VP-operations got to move up they aren't looking at such a huge change that it would be worth paying out that kind of money.

and beyond that, anybody ruthless enough to really want someone like that dead, can't take the first $15K and completely outfit themselves with the latest high power rifle tech including optics? that type of person would be more confident in themselves killing the person than another person never selling them out no?

Organized crime situations, for starters. Assassinations, as well. These aren't as big a deal in the modern US that I know of, but assassination-for-pay of political and organized crime figures has a long and glorious history worldwide.

CrackBaby
05-10-2009, 10:26 PM
meh i dont really buy into it. where are these high profile assassinations worth a lot of money. i used to read up on a lot of them and all these things are typically crazy people. and framings, even by the state (yukos oil etc) seem to happen more.

i guess someone could have a million dollar insurance policy or something on someone and then pay someone $400K to kill them off but that's pretty far fetched and unlikely to actually pay out on the insurance i'd think.

buddix
05-10-2009, 10:26 PM
I'm not personal acquaintances with any pimps and I think the whole thing is disgusting. I'm also kind of disturbed thinking about how all this pimp slang has entered popular vernacular. But anyways, I did hear one guy claiming he made $1500 a night a woman, which I think is bullshit. But I did some looking on google, and if this article is correct, street hookers make way more than $20-30 an hour:
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2008/09/jersey_city_pimps_forced_women.html

CrackBaby
05-10-2009, 10:31 PM
hmm abort my line on this not happening, seems there are tons of botched cases out there which is a good sign that there are a lot of successes too.

its gonna be mostly insurance fraud though i'm saying, not gang or promotion seekers.

CrackBaby
05-10-2009, 10:34 PM
I'm not personal acquaintances with any pimps and I think the whole thing is disgusting. I'm also kind of disturbed thinking about how all this pimp slang has entered popular vernacular. But anyways, I did hear one guy claiming he made $1500 a night a woman, which I think is bullshit. But I did some looking on google, and if this article is correct, street hookers make way more than $20-30 an hour:
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2008/09/jersey_city_pimps_forced_women.html

dunno i was referring to that chicago study. it may have averaged their wages across typical business hours.

CrackBaby
05-10-2009, 10:38 PM
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/11/national/main3700138.shtml?source=RSSattr=U.S._3700138

Prostitutes taking part in the study - who were paid $150 a week - reported that about 3 percent of the sex acts they performed were "freebies" given to Chicago police officers to avoid arrest.

The study found full-time prostitutes made on average less than $20,000 a year. If they had a pimp, the women made a little more, even after giving up a 25 percent cut of their earnings. The women reported being beaten about once a month on average.


all that shit about pimps and dealers driving around in crazy cars etc, is typically a front. they will often have big chains, very expensive clothes, the big fancy suv, and then live in an average home just because that part isn't exposed to people they need to impress. i'm gonna bet that guy was renting/leasing that rolls royce.

The Fuhror
05-10-2009, 11:18 PM
iid agree but i dunno what you mean by lower key because even a street hustler can get up to 5 years for basically nothing but ive never heard of big sentances for pimping. however pimps get locked for other things relating to their job more like assaults and shit but still yea as far as illegal activity goes selling drugs is pretty good for money.

I meant lower key as in it'd be easier to keep track of / handle because it could be a one man operation. Your average drug buying customer just wants to give you money, get drugs, and that's that. Pimps have to deal with their girls and the customers, and keeping all that shit under the radar is harder than hitting a college party and working the crowd.

47Driver
05-10-2009, 11:36 PM
ITT, Buddix deletes the NSFW child porn thread, and instead develops a knowledge database thread about prostitution, hit men, and drug dealing.

The Fuhror
05-11-2009, 12:15 AM
No pics, no crime.

Misanthrope
05-11-2009, 03:53 AM
Damn, I've got that Venkatesh study sitting somewhere on my hard drive, I need to read it at some point.

grail
05-11-2009, 04:21 AM
i dunno.

i think paid murderation can be low level and scuzzy; drug dealer shit gone wrong. and in that case its more like some sqaulid messy thing with a high chance of fuck-up. or some dumb fuck wife tries to hire some random through a pub and it all goes pear shaped.

then theres the other end of the scale; executives and political leaders. i think this is the serious stuff. all professional and big money/state-sanctioned. even then i don't think the typical image of a black clad assassin with a high-powered rifle sat on top of a tower somewhere fits. bullets and head shots mean questions. "accidents" like a fake suicide or a heart attack blah blah is clean. and far more expensive/effortful.

but tbh all i know about "hits" comes from the news, the odd bit on US covert action in s.america, and bourne films. all seems plausible tho.

iid agree but i dunno what you mean by lower key because even a street hustler can get up to 5 years for basically nothing but ive never heard of big sentances for pimping. however pimps get locked for other things relating to their job more like assaults and shit but still yea as far as illegal activity goes selling drugs is pretty good for money


the best tho is if you can make a couple hundred K doing a hit and just do a couple of those every few years but those connections are kinda hard to find and killing = wrong


people compromise a lot of morals for moeny tho

who the hell pays a couple hundred K for a hit? that's retarded. $20K ok, a couple hundred or enough to sit back for a few years? i can't believe anybody would be that lazy (to pay that much).

I think it would depend on the quality of the job. Some hits probably require a much more skilled professional than others, and are probably higher-risk endeavors for both the contractor and the client.

lol. well, gee quin glad you could contribute. what with your encyclopedic knowledge/experience of gangsta shit, black ops, and toppling third world government :roll:

grail
05-11-2009, 04:21 AM
ITT, Buddix deletes the NSFW child porn thread, and instead develops a knowledge database thread about prostitution, hit men, and drug dealing.

:lol:

Jewzilla
05-11-2009, 08:58 AM
Stupid anti-Pimping laws.
http://i39.tinypic.com/23mub8j.jpg

Smerdyakov
05-11-2009, 10:43 AM
then theres the other end of the scale; executives and political leaders. i think this is the serious stuff. all professional and big money/state-sanctioned. even then i don't think the typical image of a black clad assassin with a high-powered rifle sat on top of a tower somewhere fits. bullets and head shots mean questions. "accidents" like a fake suicide or a heart attack blah blah is clean. and far more expensive/effortful.

The assassination attempts on Yushchenko a few years back would suggest that assassination-for-pay is still a lucrative business model, especially in areas with a significant organized criminal element.

odhgabfe
05-11-2009, 11:08 AM
But I did some looking on google, and if this article is correct, street hookers make way more than $20-30 an hour:
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2008/09/jersey_city_pimps_forced_women.html

http://www.myspaceantics.com/images/myspace-graphics/funny-pictures/kid-middle-finger.jpg

MeMyselfandI
05-11-2009, 11:40 AM
I know a pimp/girl for sex provider. I grew up with him in a relatively affluent area in NYC (No he is not my Buddy). He's a complete degenerate, a hustler of anything and everything he can get his hands on and because of his gambling addiction will lie steal and cheat for a dime. This is a man who has a great education, needed nothing in life as it was always provided him and overall is a pretty intelligent guy.

He makes on average 4-5 K a day and the split is generally 50/50. I have no idea how many girls he has but he provides the john and the transportation.

I also know a dealer of anything that makes you feel good. It takes him a week to bring in what the other guy brings in on a daily basis. Also the risk of being around and carrying drugs in my opinion makes it just not worth it. Many dealers end up doing themselves...And even though we all know sex can be addictive...Drugs are far worse.


So Pimpin or dealing?.... Be a pimp.

Me though...I take the legal way out.

CrackBaby
05-11-2009, 12:26 PM
I know a pimp/girl for sex provider. I grew up with him in a relatively affluent area in NYC (No he is not my Buddy). He's a complete degenerate, a hustler of anything and everything he can get his hands on and because of his gambling addiction will lie steal and cheat for a dime. This is a man who has a great education, needed nothing in life as it was always provided him and overall is a pretty intelligent guy.

He makes on average 4-5 K a day and the split is generally 50/50. I have no idea how many girls he has but he provides the john and the transportation.

I also know a dealer of anything that makes you feel good. It takes him a week to bring in what the other guy brings in on a daily basis. Also the risk of being around and carrying drugs in my opinion makes it just not worth it. Many dealers end up doing themselves...And even though we all know sex can be addictive...Drugs are far worse.


So Pimpin or dealing?.... Be a pimp.

Me though...I take the legal way out.

i dont see how that $4-5K/day shit works out. whores are hired from what, at best 6pm to 3am, so he would need to be making $556/hour. Even if the rate is $200/hour and he made 50% of that he would need to have almost 6 johns every hour paying that much for 9 labour hours straight. and i assume he is not running this out of a whorehouse so he has to drive these girls to 6 different places on the hour every hour?

i guess it works if there's a single place, or he has drivers doing all this, but then you're talking like he has 25 prostitutes, all in the top tier of payout ($250/hour type thing) to make the numbers work out. at 80% its only marginally more plausible.