In light of gratif's situation and the recent discussion on back-calculations for drunk rape, I thought this would be appropriate to mention.

Admittedly its just a TV show - but freaky nonetheless.

A pregnant woman is claiming rape and the police arrest the man she claims is responsible. The man says he remembers her but doesn't remember having sex with her and certainly didn't rape her. The paternity test comes back as positive for being his child. So they go to trial. In the middle of the trial she considers settling for half a million dollars and then disapears. They find her car burned up after flying off a cliff.

Anyway a lot of unrelated stuff happens but what they eventually find out this woman was doing is buying famous men drinks (scientists, baseball players, musicians, etc.) and putting rohypnol in the drinks. Then getting the guys to take her back to their place before the drug fully knocks them out. Then she would use...

***THIS IS THE BEST PART - NOT FOR THE FAINT HEARTED***

a small electrical device that when placed in a man's anus, it emits an electrical shock which causes involuntary ejaculation.

She then collected the sperm samples and sold the highly desired sperm to a dirty sperm bank. Then she impregnated herself with the one guys sperm (he was a famous scientist) and claimed rape to get the settlement money.




So in light of all the lousy laws that exist, look on the bright side. No one is cattle-prodding you and stealing your sperm.

Did she burn up in the car?

some men would voluntarily pay for that kind of treatment :lol:

Did she burn up in the car?

Serious. Did she?

Did she burn up in the car?

Serious. Did she?

No, she faked her own death to get insurance money (life insurance policy was going to pay to her father who was going to give it to her).

She didn't go to jail either because they gave her a deal of no jailtime if she told them where the baby was (sometime between when she faked her death and they found her she gave birth).

a small electrical device that when placed in a man's anus, it emits an electrical shock which causes involuntary ejaculation.

I have 3 of these at home.

a small electrical device that when placed in a man's anus, it emits an electrical shock which causes involuntary ejaculation.

I have 3 of these at home.

Yeah apparently its a real thing. Its used to get sperm from paraplegics, coma patients, and even dead men (apparently sperm is viable for 30 hrs).

Did she burn up in the car?

Serious. Did she?

No, she faked her own death to get insurance money (life insurance policy was going to pay to her father who was going to give it to her).

She didn't go to jail either because they gave her a deal of no jailtime if she told them where the baby was (sometime between when she faked her death and they found her she gave birth).
Wow, I gotta hand it to this bitch. She is an elite con-artist.



a small electrical device that when placed in a man's anus, it emits an electrical shock which causes involuntary ejaculation.

I have 3 of these at home.

Yeah apparently its a real thing. Its used to get sperm from paraplegics, coma patients, and even dead men (apparently sperm is viable for 30 hrs).
I want one of these so I can cum on cue. ebay?

Wow, I gotta hand it to this bitch. She is an elite con-artist.



Yeah, the best part was she had also convinced 6 different families to pay her to adopt her baby. So she got away with 50k x 6 = 30k. Plus the 500k from the 'rape' settlement. Plus all the money she got from selling stolen sperm.

I'm assuming the insurance company found out she was alive and she didn't get the 5 million dollar life insurance payment from them.

She was downright evil.

I want one of these so I can cum on cue. ebay?

I don't think it feels good.

Admittedly its just a TV show - but freaky nonetheless.

Was it on CSI or some other law show?

Admittedly its just a TV show - but freaky nonetheless.

Was it on CSI or some other law show?

Law and Order: SVU

Admittedly its just a TV show - but freaky nonetheless.

Was it on CSI or some other law show?

Law and Order: SVU
Yeah, I saw that one too.

Yeah apparently its a real thing. Its used to get sperm from paraplegics, coma patients, and even dead men (apparently sperm is viable for 30 hrs).

this sounds promising

She then collected the sperm samples and sold the highly desired sperm to a dirty sperm bank.

Wait, she just went in with some sperm and told them "Trust me, this sperm is all from famous and elite men", and they just took it from her?

Dirty or not, I didn't think anybody was quite that stupid.

Yeah, the best part was she had also convinced 6 different families to pay her to adopt her baby. So she got away with 50k x 6 = 30k.

You missed a zero there.

She then collected the sperm samples and sold the highly desired sperm to a dirty sperm bank.

Wait, she just went in with some sperm and told them "Trust me, this sperm is all from famous and elite men", and they just took it from her?

Dirty or not, I didn't think anybody was quite that stupid.

The sperm bank was run by her father who knew what she was doing.

The people who are stupid are the people who pay 20k for sperm thats from a well-known athlete, etc.

The people who are stupid are the people who pay 20k for sperm thats from a well-known athlete, etc.

Well for women, it's halfway logical.

But seriously, for the average man, if a woman say you raped her - your life is over. Doesn't matter if you're not even arrested, you will almost certainly lose your job.

But seriously, for the average man, if a woman say you raped her - your life is over. Doesn't matter if you're not even arrested, you will almost certainly lose your job.


YOU CAN ALWAYS COUNTER SUE!

But seriously, for the average man, if a woman say you raped her - your life is over. Doesn't matter if you're not even arrested, you will almost certainly lose your job.


YOU CAN ALWAYS COUNTER SUE!

And lose.

You know about the Duke case? Stripper claims she got raped by some college guys. Turned out DNA evidence showed that she fucked several guys, but NONE were the ones she accused.

Oh, and the prosecutor covered up this evidence. The case was dropped.

This only happened because the defendants families had money.

But seriously, for the average man, if a woman say you raped her - your life is over. Doesn't matter if you're not even arrested, you will almost certainly lose your job.


YOU CAN ALWAYS COUNTER SUE!

And lose.

You know about the Duke case? Stripper claims she got raped by some college guys. Turned out DNA evidence showed that she fucked several guys, but NONE were the ones she accused.

Oh, and the prosecutor covered up this evidence. The case was dropped.

This only happened because the defendants families had money.

Money can easily manipulate justice so even if they had been convicted it's doubtful those guys would have done any serious time.

You know about the Duke case? Stripper claims she got raped by some college guys. Turned out DNA evidence showed that she fucked several guys, but NONE were the ones she accused.

Oh, and the prosecutor covered up this evidence. The case was dropped.



See, and she should have been punished for that. I think it should go both ways. If we can prove you were raped, we punish the guy. If we can prove you are KNOWINGLY lying, we punish you. We can't prove either - nothing happens.

I think women who bring false rape charges should be punished SEVERELY.

See, and she should have been punished for that. I think it should go both ways. If we can prove you were raped, we punish the guy. If we can prove you are KNOWINGLY lying, we punish you. We can't prove either - nothing happens.

I think women who bring false rape charges should be punished SEVERELY.

And so should the prosecutor for hiding exculpatory evidence.

See, and she should have been punished for that. I think it should go both ways. If we can prove you were raped, we punish the guy. If we can prove you are KNOWINGLY lying, we punish you. We can't prove either - nothing happens.

I think women who bring false rape charges should be punished SEVERELY.

And so should the prosecutor for hiding exculpatory evidence.
I was talking in general. Can't say I'm too worried about a bunch of rich jocks at Duke.

See, and she should have been punished for that. I think it should go both ways. If we can prove you were raped, we punish the guy. If we can prove you are KNOWINGLY lying, we punish you. We can't prove either - nothing happens.

I think women who bring false rape charges should be punished SEVERELY.

And so should the prosecutor for hiding exculpatory evidence.
I was talking in general. Can't say I'm too worried about a bunch of rich jocks at Duke.


thanks to the ghetto trash who used race and wealth to persicute these boys, thier academic and athletic careers are basically destroyed.

See, and she should have been punished for that. I think it should go both ways. If we can prove you were raped, we punish the guy. If we can prove you are KNOWINGLY lying, we punish you. We can't prove either - nothing happens.

I think women who bring false rape charges should be punished SEVERELY.

And so should the prosecutor for hiding exculpatory evidence.
I was talking in general. Can't say I'm too worried about a bunch of rich jocks at Duke.

But prosecutors who don't turn exculpatory evidence over to the defense attorney should be punished as well. It's in the rules.

thanks to the ghetto trash who used race and wealth to persicute these boys, thier academic and athletic careers are basically destroyed.

I have a very strong suspicion that they'll bounce back.

I have a very strong suspicion that they'll bounce back.


Their type almost always does.

Wow, I gotta hand it to this bitch. She is an elite con-artist.



Yeah, the best part was she had also convinced 6 different families to pay her to adopt her baby. So she got away with 50k x 6 = 30k. Plus the 500k from the 'rape' settlement. Plus all the money she got from selling stolen sperm.

I'm assuming the insurance company found out she was alive and she didn't get the 5 million dollar life insurance payment from them.

She was downright evil.

Evil like a fox.

Wow, I gotta hand it to this bitch. She is an elite con-artist.



Yeah, the best part was she had also convinced 6 different families to pay her to adopt her baby. So she got away with 50k x 6 = 30k. Plus the 500k from the 'rape' settlement. Plus all the money she got from selling stolen sperm.

I'm assuming the insurance company found out she was alive and she didn't get the 5 million dollar life insurance payment from them.

She was downright evil.

Evil like a panda.
Wow, that's a pretty bold implication there.

Money can easily manipulate justice so even if they had been convicted it's doubtful those guys would have done any serious time.

How so? All money allows is the ability to purchase quality legal advice/representation. Rape is a felony, so once you're convicted, you go to prison for at least a year and spend the rest of your life as a registered felon/sex offender. All money can do is get you a lawyers who will help you make yourself look good during sentencing so that you might get a lesser sentence at a more desireable prison.

thanks to the ghetto trash who used race and wealth to persicute these boys, thier academic and athletic careers are basically destroyed.

Bullshit! Once the case is dropped, all records will be expunged. The only residual damage is emotional stress/time wasted/damage to reputation.

I think women who bring false rape charges should be punished SEVERELY.

I agree, but you're walking a fine line here. Rape tends to be underreported, and rape is one of the most serious and repeated crimes out there. We wouldn't want to create a system where rapists are unlikely to be caught. Besides, a lot of the "false" rape charges probably involve ambiguous situations (like intoxication or miscommunication). One member on this forum described to me that she may have been raped by an ex-boyfriend. I asked her a few questions about it, and it was clear that the man in question had done no wrong. I would rather have false rapes like this get reported and result in no conviction than have less of the true rapes get reported.

The case described in this thread is very unusual, and I wouldn't take it into account when thinking about rape accusation law.

How so? All money allows is the ability to purchase quality legal advice/representation. Rape is a felony, so once you're convicted, you go to prison for at least a year and spend the rest of your life as a registered felon/sex offender. All money can do is get you a lawyers who will help you make yourself look good during sentencing so that you might get a lesser sentence at a more desireable prison.

No, without the lawyers these kids would probably have been convicted. With them, they were not.

No, without the lawyers these kids would probably have been convicted. With them, they were not.

How were they going to be convicted when the DNA test came up negative? The prosecutor dropped the case in response to this development. I'm not saying that lawyers are worthless, but they can't spin straw into gold.

How were they going to be convicted when the DNA test came up negative? The prosecutor dropped the case in response to this development. I'm not saying that lawyers are worthless, but they can't spin straw into gold.

Because the prosecutor was hiding that evidence. Your average nobody getting a court-appointed attorney wouldn't have had anyone to push hard enough to get that out, and he'd basically have no defense.

No defense = you go to PMITA prison.

Because the prosecutor was hiding that evidence. Your average nobody getting a court-appointed attorney wouldn't have had anyone to push hard enough to get that out, and he'd basically have no defense.

Does anyone have a news link on this story from AP?

Here we go...

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DUKE_LACROSSE?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Apparently, only the rape charges were dropped (there are still charges of sexual offense and kidnapping) due to inconsistencies in the accuser's story. The prosecutor originally agreed to a paternity test even though he knew the lacrosse players could not be the father (the timing doesn't work out). I see no reason no reason for the prosecutor to hide those results.

Given this, I don't think you are justified in accusing the prosecutor of foul play. I do think that your are more justified in asserting the importance of a good attourney.

I think women who bring false rape charges should be punished SEVERELY.

I agree, but you're walking a fine line here. Rape tends to be underreported, and rape is one of the most serious and repeated crimes out there. We wouldn't want to create a system where rapists are unlikely to be caught. Besides, a lot of the "false" rape charges probably involve ambiguous situations (like intoxication or miscommunication). One member on this forum described to me that she may have been raped by an ex-boyfriend. I asked her a few questions about it, and it was clear that the man in question had done no wrong. I would rather have false rapes like this get reported and result in no conviction than have less of the true rapes get reported.

The case described in this thread is very unusual, and I wouldn't take it into account when thinking about rape accusation law.

Out of curiosity what do you think is the percentage of women who have been raped is?

Money can easily manipulate justice so even if they had been convicted it's doubtful those guys would have done any serious time.

How so? All money allows is the ability to purchase quality legal advice/representation. Rape is a felony, so once you're convicted, you go to prison for at least a year and spend the rest of your life as a registered felon/sex offender. All money can do is get you a lawyers who will help you make yourself look good during sentencing so that you might get a lesser sentence at a more desireable prison.


Prison sentences for rape are not uniform. A study made by the U.S. Department of Justice of prison releases in 1992, involving about 80 percent of the prison population, found that the average sentence for convicted rapists was 9.8 years, while the actual time served was 5.4 years.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/psatsfv.txt

Given their socioeconomic class it is highly doubtful that they would actually serve 5.4 years for their offense, assuming it was committed.

I think women who bring false rape charges should be punished SEVERELY.

I agree, but you're walking a fine line here. Rape tends to be underreported, and rape is one of the most serious and repeated crimes out there. We wouldn't want to create a system where rapists are unlikely to be caught. Besides, a lot of the "false" rape charges probably involve ambiguous situations (like intoxication or miscommunication). One member on this forum described to me that she may have been raped by an ex-boyfriend. I asked her a few questions about it, and it was clear that the man in question had done no wrong. I would rather have false rapes like this get reported and result in no conviction than have less of the true rapes get reported.

The case described in this thread is very unusual, and I wouldn't take it into account when thinking about rape accusation law.

I realize its a fine line, and the only time I think it should be punished is when you can prove the woman did it maliciously. I don't think this would cut down the real quesionable rape reports.

I realize its a fine line, and the only time I think it should be punished is when you can prove the woman did it maliciously. I don't think this would cut down the real quesionable rape reports.

So in other words, if a girl claims it was rape, then later admits that she lied about the rape because she didn't want to be called a slut, then she wouldn't be punished?

Prison sentences for rape are not uniform. A study made by the U.S. Department of Justice of prison releases in 1992, involving about 80 percent of the prison population, found that the average sentence for convicted rapists was 9.8 years, while the actual time served was 5.4 years.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/psatsfv.txt

Given their socioeconomic class it is highly doubtful that they would actually serve 5.4 years for their offense, assuming it was committed.

You just cited an irrelavent study and then made a bold claim with no evidence. If you provided a study correlating sentence length and socioeconomic class, I would be very interested (though this would not contradict my earlier post...as I already acknowledged the importance of lawyers).

So in other words, if a girl claims it was rape, then later admits that she lied about the rape because she didn't want to be called a slut, then she wouldn't be punished?

excellent rebuttal. How often will one be able to prove that the charge was malicious? I think that the criterion should be an intentional false rape charge (for instance, I heard of a case where two young girls claimed that they were molested by a man so that they could have an excuse for being late to class). The man served several years in prison and was eventually exculpated when the women [out of tremendous guilt] stepped forward.

Out of curiosity what do you think is the percentage of women who have been raped is?

I've heard figures like 1:1 and 3:1 quoted (1/2, 1/4 respectively for the odds uninitiated). I don't know anything about which region (worldwide?) this applies to or what methodologies were used.

[QUOTE=Jewzilla;19078]Out of curiosity what do you think is the percentage of women who have been raped is?

...but basically, the answer is "a lot more than you thought."

Out of curiosity what do you think is the percentage of women who have been raped is?

...but basically, the answer is "a lot more than you thought."

Or, a lot more CLAIM to be raped than you thought.

This is really a question we will never know the answer to. Most of the time there will be no witnesses other than the parties involved, and there are tons of reasons why a woman might lie about it (not to mention why a man would lie about it).

Out of curiosity what do you think is the percentage of women who have been raped is?

...but basically, the answer is "a lot more than you thought."

Ok, I get it. You think I'm dumb. However that aside what percentage of total rapes occuring do you think is actually reported?

Out of curiosity what do you think is the percentage of women who have been raped is?

...but basically, the answer is "a lot more than you thought."

Ok, I get it. You think I'm dumb. However that aside what percentage of total rapes occuring do you think is actually reported?

Probably not very much. Most girls who get raped don't talk about it freely. I think those who volunteer that they've been raped are probably more likely to be lying.

I've known quite a few women who've been raped and I can only think of one who actually reported. Even she wasn't technically raped. A guy held a knife to her throat and made her give him head. Apparently, when the guy was caught, her testimony wasn't needed since she'd gotten off the lightest of all the girls he'd attacked. She still has a scar on her neck though.

Prison sentences for rape are not uniform. A study made by the U.S. Department of Justice of prison releases in 1992, involving about 80 percent of the prison population, found that the average sentence for convicted rapists was 9.8 years, while the actual time served was 5.4 years.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/ascii/psatsfv.txt

Given their socioeconomic class it is highly doubtful that they would actually serve 5.4 years for their offense, assuming it was committed.

You just cited an irrelavent study and then made a bold claim with no evidence. If you provided a study correlating sentence length and socioeconomic class, I would be very interested (though this would not contradict my earlier post...as I already acknowledged the importance of lawyers).

Hardly irrelevant as the discussion revolves around the idea that the amount of time likely to be served by the Lacrosse players would have been inadequate. And 5.4 years, which is the average actual time served by the average rapist, would probably be considered inadequate by most people. Furthemore, as this figure cited is only an average, one with competent legal counsel and a wealthy background would likely serve even less time than this.

And 5.4 years, which is the average actual time served by the average rapist, would probably be considered inadequate by most people.

WTF?

Furthemore, as this figure cited is only an average, one with competent legal counsel and a wealthy background would likely serve even less time than this.

Listen Tollan. Both of us have a general fund of knowledge and experience, and from this fund, we both try to hypothesize about trends when we don't have direct evidence. When our intuitions disagree, it is silly for one of us to simply repeat what our best guess is based on our preconceived biases. We can argue by citing relevant data and making arguments, or we can agree to disagree.

Or, a lot more CLAIM to be raped than you thought.

I told you that I don't know the methodology of the studies. Do you think that rape is some sort of mass feminist conspiracy?

Or, a lot more CLAIM to be raped than you thought.

I told you that I don't know the methodology of the studies. Do you think that rape is some sort of mass feminist conspiracy?

I think that everybody lies, and usually there are no witnesses.

Out of curiosity what do you think is the percentage of women who have been raped is?

...but basically, the answer is "a lot more than you thought."

Ok, I get it. You think I'm dumb. However that aside what percentage of total rapes occuring do you think is actually reported?

Probably not very much. Most girls who get raped don't talk about it freely. I think those who volunteer that they've been raped are probably more likely to be lying.

I've known quite a few women who've been raped and I can only think of one who actually reported. Even she wasn't technically raped. A guy held a knife to her throat and made her give him head. Apparently, when the guy was caught, her testimony wasn't needed since she'd gotten off the lightest of all the girls he'd attacked. She still has a scar on her neck though.

You cite a single personal example to try and make me look uncompassionate which isn't a terribly good method of arguing. Specifically though I was asking callogician what % of total rapes occuring he thinks are actually reported. I understand that it is all likelihood an underreported crime. I also realize that it is a highly traumatic event in the victims life. I would also like to point out that for those who are falsely accused it is likely nearly as traumatic. Back to the percentage which is reported the statistics that he cites of "a lot more than you thought." is almost certainly wrong unless one presumes that it goes unreported over 99% of the time (this is almost certainly impossible). To be honest though laws like the one soon to be passed in Britian which basically hands out a guilty sentence to any guy who has sex with a girl who has been drinking makes me take rape a lot less seriously.

This is something I've heard suggested before.

Instead of just bringing the hammer down on false rape claims, take a part of existing law and expand it.

Right now, rape shield laws protect the identity of women who make rape claims.

Simply make it so that accused rapists also have their identities protected, until there's a conviction.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_reporting

Tanz notes:
40% of rapes are believed to be reported
10% of rapes on males are reported
33% of sexual assualts are committed by women
basically 0 women are ever charged or convicted of sexual assualt
up to 50% of reported rapes may be fake

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_reporting

Tanz notes:
40% of rapes are believed to be reported
10% of rapes on males are reported
33% of sexual assualts are committed by women
basically 0 women are ever charged or convicted of sexual assualt
up to 50% of reported rapes may be fake

Your numbers look to be about what I've seen before. With the bottom two being the most disturbing as the fact that there have been essentially no notable convictions of women for sexual assault and of those who where (or o.4% of total sexual assault convictions) I would guess that those where involving a woman assaulting another woman. And lastly the estimate that 50% of reported rapes are in some way conjured up is highly disturbing as courts, police, etc. have had so many militant feminists jump down their throats over not prosecuting rape to the fullest extent that now the law is likely to pursue even highly sketchy allegations just to avoid getting in trouble. Also as I mentioned in my previous post with the law in England it was basically proposed so as to obtain a higher conviction rate on "rape" charges. Fan-fucking-tastic.

I would guess that those where involving a woman assaulting another woman.
No, probably woman assaulting a child.

I would guess that those where involving a woman assaulting another woman.
No, probably woman assaulting a child.

Have you seen the conviction rate for female teachers molesting their students? Its abyssmal. Something like:
Is she hot? Yes/No
Is she blonde? Yes/No
Are we confused why someone like this likes 'em you? Yes/No

If you answered yes to all of the above then you must acquit.

Out of curiosity what do you think is the percentage of women who have been raped is?

...but basically, the answer is "a lot more than you thought."

Ok, I get it. You think I'm dumb. However that aside what percentage of total rapes occuring do you think is actually reported?

Probably not very much. Most girls who get raped don't talk about it freely. I think those who volunteer that they've been raped are probably more likely to be lying.

I've known quite a few women who've been raped and I can only think of one who actually reported. Even she wasn't technically raped. A guy held a knife to her throat and made her give him head. Apparently, when the guy was caught, her testimony wasn't needed since she'd gotten off the lightest of all the girls he'd attacked. She still has a scar on her neck though.

You cite a single personal example to try and make me look uncompassionate which isn't a terribly good method of arguing. Specifically though I was asking callogician what % of total rapes occuring he thinks are actually reported. I understand that it is all likelihood an underreported crime. I also realize that it is a highly traumatic event in the victims life. I would also like to point out that for those who are falsely accused it is likely nearly as traumatic. Back to the percentage which is reported the statistics that he cites of "a lot more than you thought." is almost certainly wrong unless one presumes that it goes unreported over 99% of the time (this is almost certainly impossible). To be honest though laws like the one soon to be passed in Britian which basically hands out a guilty sentence to any guy who has sex with a girl who has been drinking makes me take rape a lot less seriously.

I'm just as outraged by women falsey accusing men of rape as you are. I think it's attrocious and mocks those women who have actually been raped.

You seemed to accept the statisitic that 40% of rapes are reported. "It is in all likelihood an underreported crime" is quite an understatement when you're talking about 60% of all rapes going unreported.

I think you'd really be surprised by how many women you know and have hung out with that have been sexually assaulted in one way or another.

Out of curiosity what do you think is the percentage of women who have been raped is?

...but basically, the answer is "a lot more than you thought."

Ok, I get it. You think I'm dumb. However that aside what percentage of total rapes occuring do you think is actually reported?

Probably not very much. Most girls who get raped don't talk about it freely. I think those who volunteer that they've been raped are probably more likely to be lying.

I've known quite a few women who've been raped and I can only think of one who actually reported. Even she wasn't technically raped. A guy held a knife to her throat and made her give him head. Apparently, when the guy was caught, her testimony wasn't needed since she'd gotten off the lightest of all the girls he'd attacked. She still has a scar on her neck though.

You cite a single personal example to try and make me look uncompassionate which isn't a terribly good method of arguing. Specifically though I was asking callogician what % of total rapes occuring he thinks are actually reported. I understand that it is all likelihood an underreported crime. I also realize that it is a highly traumatic event in the victims life. I would also like to point out that for those who are falsely accused it is likely nearly as traumatic. Back to the percentage which is reported the statistics that he cites of "a lot more than you thought." is almost certainly wrong unless one presumes that it goes unreported over 99% of the time (this is almost certainly impossible). To be honest though laws like the one soon to be passed in Britian which basically hands out a guilty sentence to any guy who has sex with a girl who has been drinking makes me take rape a lot less seriously.

I'm just as outraged by women falsey accusing men of rape as you are. I think it's attrocious and mocks those women who have actually been raped.

You seemed to accept the statisitic that 40% of rapes are reported. "It is in all likelihood an underreported crime" is quite an understatement when you're talking about 60% of all rapes going unreported.

I think you'd really be surprised by how many women you know and have hung out with that have been sexually assaulted in one way or another.

Going out, getting hammered, having sex and regretting it later doesn't count. Where that the case I'm pretty sure everybody I knew with a vagina in college was the victim of at least a half dozen rapes but they didn't usually see it that way. Also an amusing FYI the source of the 1 in 4 rape statistic comes from a feminist funded study of Californian college girls which had several amusing caveats. Firstly of those who the study counted as having been raped at least 50% didn't think they had been raped. And more amusingly somewhere around 20% (I haven't looked at this in a while so my numbers are probably a little off) of those surveyed where still dating their "attacker".

I want one of these so I can cum on cue. ebay?

I don't think it feels good.

But it would make for some serious pranks.